The Road to True Parliamentary Democracy

FIJI ARMY COMMANDER

At 39 years old, Fiji is still moulding segments of its socio-economic and political processes. A relatively young South Pacific nation, the country has walked the tight rope through four government overthrows in two decades. Now it seriously wants that single digit figure to remain static. Critical to this objective is the need to urgently address the root causes of these political and social unrests, and to pave the way to true parliamentary democracy.

The Government of Fiji, led by Prime Minister Commodore Voreqe Bainimarama, has singled out the country’s electoral system as among the major stumbling blocks at the community and national levels because of its discernible racial undertones.

Government now seeks to address this through changing the electoral system from communal voting where constituents voted along ethnic lines, thus contributing to a racially polarised nation, to a more unifying and all-embracing system where voters from fewer open constituencies choose a representative who they believe will best represent their collective interests, irrespective of race, gender or creed.

The need to reform the electoral system to place emphasis on equal suffrage and to clearly reflect a multi-racial and progressive society had been recognised as a real need for some time. However, despite this public knowledge, certain sections of the international community, political activists and commentators, continue to relentlessly call for early elections.

This begs the question of whether holding the elections for the mere sake of adhering to the norms of constitutional democracy will help rid the country of its coup culture, or will this only offer a short-term solution? Prime Minister Bainimarama has voiced repeatedly the need to address the root causes of the coups first and foremost. The likelihood of the Prime Minister and government backing down from this objective is nil. This reflects an innate understanding of the myriad of issues, many of them latent, facing the country.

The military, the PM says, was driven by its desire to do right for the country and its citizens when it took over executive authority of the nation in December 2006. It sees itself as the last bastion of hope in as far as security is concerned. As part of the security forces, the military will need to intervene and assist the police force to bring back law and order and stabilise any political and social upheaval. The security forces now see it more important to deal with the root causes of the political upheavals instead of fire-fighting every time a government takeover happens.

The military proved this point in 2000 when armed civilians took over the elected government and held the nation to ransom. Led by Commodore Bainimarama, the military rescued the nation and returned governance to a civilian government. However, PM Bainimarama says the expectations of the nation were not met. Instead, the then elected government introduced more discriminatory policies. PM Bainimarama says this, and other issues that needed to be addressed, which the current government continue to do so, include but are not limited to corruption and scams in government that were fuelled by a powerful alliance between corrupt politicians, civil servants and unscrupulous businesspersons; the lack of political will to push for social and economic reforms; the need to speed up infrastructural development and to ensure equitable distribution of resources throughout the country; and the need to implement radical changes to the system of governance.

While patriotism is encouraged, legislations such as the iQoliqoli bill – intended to uphold indigenous rights to foreshore grounds – and the Unity and Land Tribunal bills were seen as extreme institutionalising of indigenous affairs. Such policies would have further entrenched the racial divide, hence the catalysts for the 2006 event.

Addressing the United Nations General Assembly in September 2007, PM Bainimarama described the journey Fiji has come through since gaining its independence from Britain in 1970 – “…a young nation on a rather shaky foundation with a race-based Constitution, one which rigidly compartmentalised our communities.” In his address, the PM further expressed that “the democracy which came to be practised in Fiji was marked by divisive, adversarial, inward-looking, race-based politics.”

“The legacy of leadership, at both community and national levels, was a fractured nation.” The need for change has therefore become an absolute necessity. The PM says relevant changes will also be carried out in the administration of land, a highly valued commodity in Pacific Island communities and Fiji is no exception. The gist of land reforms will take into account the need for more productive use of idle land and a fairer distribution of land lease proceeds among the landowners.

The PM adds that government will ensure the land reforms accommodate the interests of all concerned parties. Government is keen to hold general elections. When? Five years from now – in 2014. From now until then, government intends to lay the foundation for a real and meaningful democratic society. In line with that, government has embarked on various restructure programmes fulfilling its 5-year strategic framework for change. Announced last month, this now public document will guide government’s programme of work in key political and socio-economic institutions. Government, therefore, has a mammoth task ahead to implement its plans. Agreeably, five years is a batter of an eyelid – extremely short period and the Prime Minister knows that. But government aims to strategically work within its means.

A free and fair general election is also what the international community wants, among others, albeit at the earliest. Government understands that. But it also believes that for that to happen, the necessary changes will need to take place first. These changes will form part of the solution to break the cycle of coups in Fiji and to achieve government’s ultimate vision – to build a better Fiji for all its citizens under a true parliamentary democracy.

Key Targets & Timelines: 2009 to 2014
2009 to 2012: Socio-economic and infrastructural developments• including land reforms.
2012: Creation of new and modern Constitution.•
September 2014: General Elections to be held.•

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57 responses to “The Road to True Parliamentary Democracy

  1. Good piece!!! REAL Fiji News so good to have you back! A bright spark on this dull day.

  2. Now if that’s not reasonable then what is? Wananavu!!! At our own pace on our own terms by our own people in our own time on our own issues.

  3. Way to go..Way to go Real Fiji News!!! Very well composed and presented.

    Now how on earth can the outside world NOT understand our situation??? Beats me.

    Keep it rolling Real Fiji keep it rolling…

  4. yeah, about time we took contrl of our own destiny! ……..at our own pace……….God bless the new Fiji!!!!!

  5. it is a pity that Fiji had to entertain people like Ballu Khan, came in, no money, conned his way thru NLTB and disappeared with the 3million. Also had a hand into the disarray of Ba Holdings! bleary conniving pig! thank God he will never set foot again into Fiji !! because if he does, he will be put into the Lovo for somebody’s dinner!!!!!!!!

  6. Ballu Khan’s duping of the NLTB showed how gullible some people are at simple vesumona tactics.

    Well he had to learn the hard way and yeah I doubt he’ll ever want to return.

  7. When a Government Planning Committee for Justice, Law & Order is given the tag SWG9 – the LAST in a line of planning committees – we ought to have known that all was not well? Especially when it is put in place immediately after an uprising which included elements of terrorism: hostage taking, killings and arson, widespread impunity and the release of persons complicit from prison post-conviction and sentencing by the Courts? The SWG9 Government Planning Committee for Justice, Law & Order was an aberration of its nomenclature. Its funding was never fully realised nor expended and key persons who were expected to report regularly – never did. In fact, they wandered in and out in desultory fashion when it suited. At times, it had no quorum or difficulty in finding one. This was a demonstration of a nation in peril. No captain at the helm steering the ship or was there a deliberate attempt to pervert its course? SWG9 was an example of ill will in action, bad faith and contempt for the safety and security of ordinary citizens. An ‘in your face’ example of how states fail to secure the safety of citizens despite funding by taxpayers at home and abroad. And what did the defunct DPP contribute? This must be a matter for the new Independent Legal Services Commission to decide.

  8. For nearly all Barristers and Lawyers, everything is an elevated highschool debate and about who can win with a better argument, a better angle, a more convincing interpretation of the law. It is like ligatory battlefield of wits. If anyone is gulty of shifting the absolutes of value and ethics, it is the lawyers. It is part of your behavior implanted almost into their genepool. The Judiciary also must not align themselves to political inclinations including being Pro-democracy or pro-regime. They should align themselves to the business of justice exclusively and live wth their decisions good or bad. While we fight to move forward, we get hamstrung by those like Cassandra et al who are hellbent on failure at all costs. At all the people of Fiji’s cost. They can duck in and out of FIji with thea disposable wealth while we pay At all costs… We are the envy of most postcolonial countries coz we are determining our way forward unfettered, without influence, and on our own terms setting our own destiny and identity and the judiciary especially Cassandra et al need to get unstuck, roll up their sleeves and help in this movement forward.

  9. @reason! wananavu !!!! wananavu !!!!!! thats the way to go !! rub it in my friend!!!

  10. CASSANDRA YOU DO NOT IMPRESS ME ONE BIT WITH YOUR SELF-CENTRED, WANNA-BE USAGE OF LEGAL LANGUAGE/JARGON.

    I STRONGLY SUGGEST BEFORE YOU GIVE YOUR 2-CENTS PIECE OF ADVISE, PLEASE TRY AND SORT OUT THE SHIT YOU AND YOUR FANCY-FART LAWYERS ARE IN RIGHT NOW AT YOUR LAW SOCIETY CULT.

    YOUR AGMS STRUGGLE TO MAKE QUORUMS, AN INDICATION OF “ALL IS NOT WELL” AMONGST YOURSELVES.

    CLEAN YOUR TRASH BIN FIRST BEFORE TRYING TO IMPRESS US WITH YOUR LEGAL LINGO.

  11. @ cretins. “Good blog”.

    Don’t blame lawyers for the failings of the common people. We need MORE lawyers, not less because without lawyers, there is no one, except a man with gun, who can tell you what you own and to protect your rights.

    But don’t worry about that because the IG has hamstrung the lawyers, scared the people, threatened their families and now has you cretins to help spread the good word to the world:

    “Everything is great in Fiji!”

    “Oh if only the world knew how HAPPY we are in Fiji to have the IG. Everything is so much better NOW…”

    “Oh I love Bainimarama. When I go to sleep, I think of just how warm, safe and fluffy he makes me feel.”

    Seriously. Surely ANY government would be spending the money on elections rather than this piss-poor propaganda blog. It is shameful and another example of the aimless and revolting injustice done to our beautiful country and its honourable people.

  12. @radiolucas, bro u sound confused !!!! did u take yr pills for the day???????

  13. @ reicece.

    It is called sarcasm. I would be ruder but I feel sorry for you.

    Read something, it might help you cope: http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/category,COI,,,FJI,4aa607792,0.html

  14. @kutu sebe, maannnn! I cannot believe people like u take this piece of shit seriously! wud not waste my time reading it, because, it’s full of lies and exxageration!! come on man! Fiji is still a paradise and if one compare it to places like iraq, pakistan,iran, we’re paradise!! are u also taking that thing growing in Navosa(m)???? u are surely hallucinating bro, chec yr pills!!!!!

  15. Fiji is blessed to at last have a leader like Mr. Bainimarama who is fearless and can take on the bullies. Australia and New Zealand only have themselves to blame if Fiji chooses to seek assistance elsewhere – afterall, these 2 countries heaped some nasty sanctions on Fiji and its people. And to those on this forum who remain positive about Fiji’s progress, God bless you and our Prime Minister and his Ministers.

  16. Radiolucas if you say that this blog is piss-poor propaganda then why the heck are you in it anyway and contributing at that?????

    Yeah you really gotta check your diary mate whether you’ve taken your morphine pills. I bet you just can’t stomach the fact that Frank has done wonders for this country much much much better than your preferred leader(s).

    Frank does not give a shit to anyone or any society for that matter and much thanks go to the Military Council and his troops for supporting him to the end.

    Yeah check your pills and go back to your conniving blog Raw…

  17. He will be arrested at the UN assembly meeting.

  18. @wadruce!you wish!!! in yr dreams bro! by the way, what planet r u on????we have moved on, the UN has accepted VB, hence the invitation!!! forgot to take yr pills like radiolucas????? pls do not forget, chec yr diary!!!!!!

  19. @Radiolucas. Fluffy pillow aside more lawyers indeed eh? These we have enough of only trouble is they either on Vodafone MIC judging and scouting for new blood, sitting on the fence, or engaged in useless debate or taking the higher moral ground on their high horses, or drinking coffee downtown, or washing it down in Traps backbar or in retirement in Kadavu or having clique dinners around the pool bitching about Frank and the government over a nice ot of curry cooked by their housegirl or buying up half of Suva or doing anything else but move this country forward cept for a hand ful….. RadioLucas try out mada on Vodafone MIC, You mic get luckywith the lawyer!!!

  20. @radiolucas

    Sarcasm gives you a nice warm feeling inside, the same sensation you get every time you urinate in your pants.

    sonalevu.

  21. @ Reason (?) and Soresore

    Nice retorts, though I would have thought that having evidence of intelligence and taking the higher moral ground is a good thing (did you really both mean to say that?).

    I don’t really want to engage in any more useless troll-debate with you both except to point out that history will be the judge of the silly things you write here.

    I am not saying that change for Fiji is bad. Fiji, just like every other country, needs change. But taking a shortcut by using a military junta has never played out well for any country (and don’t use US War of Independence etc as an example – it is just incorrect).

    Eventually, after years of mismanagement and corruption, VB will be driven out by popular support and the Junta will go and this will probably take the Military establishment with it. This is a shame because the RFMF is based on a lot of brave and noble sacrifices in the cause of freedom and justice.

    So what will this mean? This will leave the good people of Fiji (the Lawyers included), to clean up the mess and rebuild the country. Perhaps you will be involved too but that really depends on your level of commitment, hard work and maturity.

    But anyway, enough of that. I know that you won’t actually READ any of this – you are just going to copy and paste some more swear words and cliches, post them and pat eachother on the bum as if to say “another job well done”.

  22. WADRUCE & his likes..

    You still don’t get it huh!!!!!!! The UN cannot do without Fiji, our neighbouring countries (the 2 big brothers) cannot do without Fiji and even the Commonwealth cannot do without Fiji!!!

    Ask yourself, why is the UN not barring VB from making a presentation?

    Why did the Commonwealth send an envoy in Sir Paul Reeves to Fiji recently?

    Why do our 2 big brothers nearby have been putting pressure on our Govt yet recently have mellowed?

    Because Fiji is special. Do you think the same attention would be shown to Niue? No bloody way!

    Set take your tablets now….

  23. @Radiolucas – Currently 7 Military Dicatorships, In the last 20 years there has been in Europe 7 countries who have had Military Juntas, 15 in Asia, 22 in the Americas, 32 in Africa, 1 in Oceania. Of the 7 in Europe four of them are now members of the European Union, Spain Portugal, Greece and Poland. Military Juntas are and have been legitimate forms of government not only in thelast 20 years but well before, Britian for 14 years during the Guy Fawkes experience, and even further back Julius Ceaser in Rome, CHinese civilisations and dynasties who have survived longer than the USA history and European history put together. Bugger the American experience who are they compared to the history of the bigger and badder world. So Radiolucas take ride on the wild side, open up your mind to change and see that this is bigger than you and I and it may just be better to focus on the building than the pointless banter.

  24. @ Reason

    I am so glad that you are so enamoured by dictatorships. Why don’t you travel the world and go visit a few more? Take a few friends with you. But you won’t because MIlitary governments are dangerous, unpredictable and disastrous for the people.

    Quoting ancient cultures, e.g. China, pre revolutionary England etc is simply not going to fly in the modern world – they are products of their time and circumstance. As for China, China has a well-established history of human rights violations. Try reading the UN Declaration of Human Rights for more hints.

    And no, the definition of legitimate implies that it is accepted by a majority. I am sure that you ACCEPT a military junta, but you are a select minority, and probably employed by the junta in any case.

    It is not a question of being “open minded”, Bainimarama is a criminal and his cronies are using him and the army to their own ends. I am not going to be silly enough to cover my eyes – I don’t want to live with that shame for the rest of my life. I will keep “building” for my friends, my family and my life, but not for the Junta and it’s criminals.

  25. @radiolucas, be thankful u r being educated on this website, I bet you did not know half of what has been told to you!!!!! happy learning!!!!!!

  26. @radiolucas , bro! yr kind makes me sick! I mean we’re talking reality here, this govt is here to stay! what part of this sentence do you not understand???are u in dreamland or taking those “m” from the highlands of navosa! cover yr eyes or rub it with monkee shit, it will not make a difference!!!

  27. @Radiolucas… Thanks for that clearly stupid response… should have known better. Ancient , modern or recent I suppose it has not occurred to you that these are all part of the chronological timeline of which our modern experience is benefitting from. They might be years apart but have relativity in that as a result of these experiences yesterday, last week, a decade a ago all are what happened to help us get here. In the same way we need this present experience in Fiji to happen for us to get there.
    Radiolucas if it shames you so much then go build sandcastles for your friends and family elsewhere.
    As for China well who did not suffer from the recent world recession and how come 80% of EU and 90% of major US business are running over to China. WHo baled out the US? the Chinese Banks in the USA…
    If anyone is doing double standrards it is the Democratic world you are so “enemaed” with. On One hand, DOwn with Chinese Human Rights and who are benefitting the most? They are,, on the backs of the cheap Chinese labour? SO Radiolucas get your head out of your ass and get real.

  28. @ Reason

    I am sorry that you think my response is unsatisfactory.

    Perhaps I should have framed something along the lines of your compatriots, referring to your sexuality, alcolism or parentage?

    Anyway, you make my point for me. History is transitional, and it has lessons for us all. Military governments do not last, they are not remembered for all “the wonderful things” they do – because they don’t. In the end, they are vilified and burnt to the ground, their effigies ground into dust.

    Indeed, our “modern experience” as you put it is sum total of the lessons of history and, to quote the hoary old chestnut, those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

    Normal people (who are not corrupt etc) cannot do business in a military government because there is no law – martial law and the whims of a dictator are not condusive (big surprise) to the functioning of commerce and nation building.

    Economic depressions however ARE a symptom of our “modern experience” – lax financial regulation and globalisation are not entirely to blame, because I don’t pretend to be an expert in global economics.

    In the same way that “democracy” is not to blame – after all there are plenty of countries, such as Australia, New Zealand and countries in Europe who did not suffer nearly as much as the USA or the UK and have done as well, or better (say some of Australia), than China.

    So yes, the Chinese government is very good at having cheap labour, a massive manufacturing base and a resource-hungry economy – so where does this leave Fiji’s “modern experience”?

    In short, nothing like China’s experience. Instead, we have a government that doesn’t know it’s arse from it’s elbow – has a fear of any form of criticism, query or commentary – and puts the fear of god into sensible investors.

    So we cannot use our banks to “bail out the US” – instead we watch our businesses rush down the toilet rim.

    For the record, noone (even if I were on the “m” as your baby sister Raqiqi puts it) would be stupid enough to say that democracy is fair (life isnt fair) or that democracy is perfect.

    But democracy would be a far better thing for all of us than the monster that is in charge now – at least we could have some say in what is going on, to go outside and say what we feel, to have someone listen to us – instead we have a government that is so afraid of the people that it has the army patrols on the streets and propoganda on the TV.

    If the military government was so good, they wouldn’t need to do this. Even you can’t have any retort for that.

    Enough said.

  29. @Radiolucas

    The military is there to protect the people from shits like you who get a nice warm feeling inside every time they tell people that the square peg of western democracy is suitable for Fiji’s round hole.

    You can take your square peg and stick it up your square hole.

    sonalevu.

  30. @ soresore

    I am so glad you feel that way about Fiji’s “round hole”. You really are making a great argument for… big arses?… Are you sure you shouldnt be in charge of one of the government’s departments?

    Attempting to get to your point (if you had one) – What government do you suggest as an alternative – is this government proposing an alternative of ANY kind? What about a make-it-up-as-we-go-along Government? Wait… we already have that. And it has guns. Handclaps all around.

  31. @Radiolucas… I doubt you are in Fiji at all. “Down the toilet rim”, “soldiers on the streets”, “army afraid of the people”, “government that does not know is arse from its elbow” …… On the back of a successful Mini Games, a 25% increase in exports, A great Vodafone Hibiscus festival and an improved building price index and record tourist arrivals for the frst and second quarter of this year. Where were the soldiers on the street? Far from Kabul or Kandahar…. Tadra Kahani kids expressing great optmisim for a foward moving Fiji and improved remittances for the second quarter. The foreign reserves scare was touted 2-3 years ago and yet here we are still churning along wonderfully with the Australian Business Council optimistic and consolidating its bsiness interest, inspite of the blacklist from the Forum Trade meeting….. In spite of all the negativity and the whingieing and the criticisms and the blacklisting we are doing well thank you as best we can and clearly no thanks to people like you..

  32. @ Reason

    25% increase in exports? From last year? From July 2009? From July 1900? Where is that statistic from? It cannot be from sugar that is for sure. Perhaps you should be in charge of propaganda or ministry of finance?

    Just because the army has it’s own new hiluxes does not mean that they are now “invisible”. We know who they are, where they park at night and who they are watching. They don’t have to be dressed up in full camo to be there.

    So yes, you may not know what I am talking about, or just living in denial, but that doesnt mean it isnt happening – just that you don’t know about it.

    And no, Fiji is not “doing very well” – doing very well would be Fiji doing at least as well as it was pre-coup, which unless you have some fudged figures, isn’t going to happen anytime in this decade. A clean Sakuna Park for the Hibiscus festival does not a clean government make. It just smells different.

    As for your response re propaganda, threats and delayed elections – it really is very weak. Why no elections? Why no free press? Why are the soldiers being used against the people? This government DOESNT know it’s arse from it’s elbow – the only skill it has is using violence, talking about violence and using the threat of violence. This would be fine if it was used on the battlefield against terrorists and criminals, but it is not. It is used on the people who they label as an enemy.

    So yes, I am being negative and critical of the military government – but I am not shutting my eyes to this travesty, this theft of our rights and our voices – you can run around saying how great everything is and how happy you are about everything but I am not impressed with the people I see doing this or the way the military government tries to force anyone who says otherwise, to be quiet.

    If the military government had enough confidence in their good governance (of which there is NONE), they would allow everyone to write whatever they liked and let the truth come out. But they won’t because they know they have no plan (at all) except trying to find a plan to dig themselves out of the hole they made and to keep hold to the power that Bainimarama wants.

  33. @radiolucas

    you definately don’t know your arse from your mouth.

    the situation in Fiji is just fine – record tourist numbers, hotels are full, economy on the rise and above all else there is peace.

    why don’t you take your agument somewhere else where it is needed, like afganistan, iran etc.

    the governments of australia, nz and western europe have no qualms about going to bed with china, one of the worst abusers of human rights and a military dictatorship.

    they are willing to prostitute themselves. why don’t you?

  34. @ soresore

    General Eisenhower once wrote: “We seek peace, knowing that peace is the climate of freedom.”

    Unless you live in a shoe box, or have no idea, the situation in Fiji is not fine and this “peace” we have is a desolation.

    And no, I won’t take my argument to Iran or Afganistan because I am not Iranian or Afgani, I am Fijian and I am proud to who I am. I think it is right to fight the injustices on behalf of the weak, the silent and against the cowardly – those who stand beneath the guns and proclaim the desecration of our nation as a “peace”.

    You tell me with one breath that China has a evil military government, then with the other you claim that Fiji’s military government is good for Fiji – which is it? Is it good or bad? Do you see the problem?

    China’s government is a communist dictatorship – they do things to their people that are not tolerated in the rest of the world – and their people let them do it to them in the name of patriotism and progress (see text regarding Mao’s Great Leap Forward). Are you saying that we should be HAPPY if we could have this in Fiji?

    Perhaps your arguments are that we should all just shut up, ignore everything and hope that it gets better – that in five years time we might have a government, while our freedoms and tax have been sacrificed.

    Are you really that trusting?

    I think that for the sake of ‘getting on with it’ you would have us all turn a blind eye to the rape and theft of our history, our rights, our freedoms and our constitution – but I am not going to go quietly into the night while greedy and unthinking people let this crime happen.

    So let me offer you a scenario and some questions for you to consider.

    If the Military does not have an election in 2014:

    (a) What will you say?; and

    (b) Who will you to say it to?

  35. Good on you radiolucas!

    The responses to your comments just shows the level of intlelligence of the writers.

  36. Samuela Tawakilai

    I know that there will be no election in 2014 if Frank is still at the drivers seat! But for argument sake, let me ask a few question: If Qarase win the next election…then what? When the next democratic government is formed and it wants to prosecute the present illegal government…another Coup?
    Frank should give Fiji a break and take a long walk or a marathon!

  37. @ Samuela

    Good point. It is complex I agree.

    If, for the sake of argument, Qarase won, there would be some careful legal and political negotiations I suspect. But it would be impossible to tell what would happen.

    It would be uncertain and difficult but on the bright side, at least Qarase would have the chance to lose and we would have the chance to have a choice.

  38. The scenarios mentioned are valid indeed.

    Too bad the IG is not such a great fan of fair play – so far! Let alone level headed discussion which actually makes sense. One can only assume the worse if a political party not in the IG’s favorites ‘list’ actually wins.

  39. Qarase will not win because he & his cronies will not manipulate the 2014 election like they did for the last 2 elections! we wud by then have an electroral reform, doing away with the current racist one!!!! so guys stop dreaming! Qarase’s days are over!!!! people’s eyes have opened!!!

  40. Someone once made the telling remark that soldiers are not trained in diplomacy or negotiation – they see everything and everyone as an obstacle – a mere hurdle to a goal that they get to using the only thing that they are well trained in – violence.

    So if someone isn’t on their team, they are necessarily viewed as their enemy – a very black and white set of views.

    Which is why, in part, military governments are so very poor at dealing civilians and public criticism.

  41. @ s.raqiqi

    Noone said “Qarase will win”. You just think that he would win and you justify that belief by accusing him and his party of electoral fraud – which was never proven – just another random accusation based on nothing at all.

    In any event, who cares who wins, just as long as I get to vote for someone that I wish to vote for. If that was to be Qarase, it is my business and not for anyone else to judge.

    It is called democracy. You could vote too you know… It doesn’t have to be shot at or bludgeoned with a stick – just line up like the common man and vote like everyone else.

  42. @radiolucas, an election is not an answer to Fiji’s problem!! we need to rid of underlying problems that has plagued Fiji for years & years, issues like racism, white collar corruption, greedy elite click groups, etc , these are like desease that is becoming a norm in Fiji and the presence of these desease allowed the election to be rigged and ofcorse covered up! If Qarase’s govt was put in there fairly they wud be still there today!!! but no way hose!!! what goes around comes around!!!! good on you VB, you are the man of the moment!!! God’s hands are surely on you!!!!!!

  43. “If Qarase’s govt was put in there fairly they wud be still there today!!! ”

    No, they would still be gone because of a coup. You might remember it – it happened around the end of 2006…

  44. Does anyone even know how bad corruption had been in Fiji, or whatever the military claims? Who has been keeping tab on these issues to reliably state that one government was more corrupt than the other. The fact is, there is no reliable measurement in place even in govt. to spit out such a quantitative indicator. Even the IG would not know where to start…FICAC is still running around in circles! Transparency International’s corruption indicator are all based on interviews…not so reliable!

    Whatever clean-up excuses has been based on ‘hearsay’ & witch hunt practices, wasting precious time & scarce resources.
    Its anybody’s guess whether we are better or worse off…. If the RBF Governor is having problems with his import data, what can we say about corruption measures….

    Maybe our pro regime supporters could ask the IG to provide reliable hard data that was used to warrant such a ‘clean-up campaign’… Numbers please…

  45. Democracy allows for the people to choose good and bad leaders – in thier image. Dictatorship is government only in the ugly image of the dictator.

  46. @ Jimilai

    I’m really not sure what planet you hail from but if you’re on earth then obviously you would be reading or viewing people being charged and taken to court for corruption, abuse of office etc…

    Corruption is a hard crime to detect but we are getting there…slowly but surely.

    If you do have time please kindly and slowly remove your head from your arse read the papers or take a stroll down to the court houses and see for yourself.

    Thank you.

  47. People who give lengthy commentaries and trying to justify their views shows the quantity of intelligence they possess….People like Radiolucas, Jimilai and so on…ULUKAU!

  48. pakju, via vosa tu bleary baku!!!!

  49. @ BRISCO

    Still no answer… Does this mean that I am going to have to give up on you?

  50. @ Jimilai.

    I am sorry to tell you this, there is no evidence for anything to justify the 2006 coup.

    Just a lot of loud noises and shadows on the walls.

  51. Thank you Brisco for you answer.

    There is a difference in data for indications of corruption and the actual convictions of corruption. You have focussed on the latter.

    For interest, for the corrupt conviction you’re singing about, is it enough to take-over a government? If the IG was right in that cleaning up was needed, the convictions would have been much higher.

    Since conviction rate is so ridiculous (i.e. too low for a coup excuse), my question still stands.

    As to your comment mentioning ‘Ulukau’, i respect your opinion but please comment only on the issue. Is that so hard?

  52. In regards to removal of Qarase, corruption etc, if the elections were fair and there was no corruption in the last 6 yrs of his leadership, I firmly believe that they wud be still here today but…. guess what “God is watching” and he said enuf is enuf……!!! out u go!!!!! sa sivia na vakalolomataki nei qarase & co!!!

  53. Interesting, so now we are equating the IG to God or God’s will? So please answer me this, Would God’s kingdom meddle with Lies? If any of the IG’s foundation is not according to the principle of the creator of the Galaxies, I have to question the ‘God’ you are referring to Raqiqi! It boils down to an either or question…. When one does not align to one, he/she has aligned to the other, unfortunately there’s no grey area. We do serve a God who is Just & has never changed!

  54. exactly a God who is just and never change!!

  55. Good that you agree!

    Therefore what is legal has to be supported & that which is not, should not.

    I leave it to you to reach your own conclusion.

  56. @Jimilai & Lucas

    You peel the arguments away like an oinion and eventually the truth reveals itself. Thank you for the reasoned responses to the often childish replies.

  57. @ abeche

    Don’t worry – there are a lot more people working to save Fiji than you think.

    Exposing the truth takes time and energy – we need to remain vigilant against those who would have us lying to ourselves about what is happening.

    They just need to be reminded about what is happening – no matter how tiresome and thankless the task!

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