Methodists Support Government

Finally we can put this to rest. The Methodist Church has pledged its support to the  Government and will offer full support and abide by all rules and regulations.  AMEN.. now lets get on with running the country.

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63 responses to “Methodists Support Government

  1. Thinking about cutting corners? (2)
    Set an example…in life 1 TIMOTHY 4:12
    In 1994 golfer Davis Love III called a one-stroke penalty on himself during the second round of the Western Open. He moved his marker to get it out of another player’s putting line and later he couldn’t remember if he’d moved his ball back to its original spot. Since he wasn’t certain he gave himself an extra stroke, and that one stroke caused him to miss the cut. He was eliminated from the tournament, (ironically, if he’d made the cut, even if he finished last he’d have earned $2,000 that week). At year’s end Love was $590 short in winnings to automatically qualify for the Masters and needed to win a tournament in order to get into one of golf’s most coveted events. Fortunately, the story ends well. The week before the big event he qualified by winning a tournament in New Orleans, and went on to earn $237,600 by finishing second in the 1995 Masters. Later when Love was asked how he’d have felt if he’d missed the Masters because of calling a penalty on himself, he replied, ‘The real question is how I’d have felt if I’d won and spent the rest of my life wondering if I’d cheated.’ It’s easier to maintain your integrity than to try and recover it. Paul instructed Timothy: ‘In everything set…an example by doing what is good…show integrity…and soundness of speech that cannot be condemned, so that those who oppose you may be ashamed because they have nothing bad to say’ (Titus 2:7-8 NIV). It may cost you to do the right thing, but it’ll cost you more when you abandon your principles and do the wrong thing.

  2. Thank you Walaitavu – This is a very poignant message at this time. Here’s to moving forward.

  3. Be open to change – and pursue it!
    Let patience have its perfect work. JAMES 1:4
    A letter was returned to the Post Office. Handwritten on the envelope were the words, ‘He’s dead.’ Through an oversight the letter was inadvertently sent to the same address again. Again it was returned to the Post Office with yet another message: ‘He’s still dead!’ Let’s be honest; most of us resist change. We desire improvement, but we don’t want to pay the price for it. And that’s a problem, because we will never become what God intends us to be by remaining what we are. It’s not enough to be open to change, we need to pursue it. If you’re serious about changing your life, Dr John Maxwell says: ‘Don’t just change enough to get away from your problems – change enough to solve them. Don’t change your circumstances to improve your life – change yourself to improve your circumstances. Don’t do the same old things expecting different results – get different results by doing something new. Don’t see change as something hurtful that must be done – see it as something helpful that can be done. Don’t avoid paying the immediate price tag of change – if you do, you will pay the ultimate price of never improving.’ James writes: ‘When your faith is tested, your endurance has a chance to grow. So let it grow, for when your endurance is fully developed, you will be perfect and complete, needing nothing’ (James 1:3-4 NLT). Character building is a slow process; it happens day-by-day. Whenever we try to escape life’s difficulties we short-circuit the process, delay our growth, and end up with a worse kind of pain; the worthless type that accompanies denial and avoidance. So, be open to change; and pursue it!

  4. Amen!!!! Gods will be done. Methodists were fasting and God has given them Frank Bainimarama to sort out their mess and get rid of racist politicians wearing the priests robe. If Frank was wrong then why hasnt he drawn the wrath of God to kill him instantly? Why werent the personnel who went to arrest Lasaro and Kanailagi and the other dissident clergy drop dead. God has spoken through the noble actions of Frank Bainimarama to remove racism and other ungodly practices.

  5. Ha,ha,ha I cant stop laughing about RawFijiNews. First they encourage uprising by the methodists and now they are singing are different tune when PM is talking to them. The bottom line is they have been proven wrong again. The methodist have come clean of the political influence of Lasaro and Kanailagi and that is why they are talking. Rev Nawadra has also said that they support the government in moving the country forward. Now where to from here RFN???? Ha, ha,ha……

  6. For Fiji Ever Fiji!!!

    Forget the crap and drivel on the other site Raw!! It keeps running propaganda that is supposed to give anti government supporters hope that something is about to happen. As soon as 1 propaganda item fails they start another one. !st it was Driti then something else and then Driti again and then the Methodist Church

  7. Raw Fiji News just got smacked in the face AGAIN. As I’ve been saying, the paradigm is shifting in Fiji.

    Raw Fiji News really think they have got it all figured out. forget it Raw. The new Fiji is at hand.

    Sing it louder….For Fiji, Ever Fiji……………….

  8. Amen … For Fiji, Ever Fiji! Wonderful news indeed! Thanks be to God and to Vitivou and all of you on Real Fiji News who persevere in upholding the truth in Fiji. Sa toso ki liu na Viti Vou!

  9. era na soro mai…….keep going guys…….im proud of yous……….love you all……and god bless……

  10. Na kena ca gona ya ni dodonu ga me ra vunautaka tiko nai tukutuku vinaka kei Jisu ra qai lai via vunautaka mai na tukutuku nei Qarase kei na SDL mai na tutu ni vunau.

    Qai vakamadua gona qo ni nodratou cakacaka ga na le vica da mai boica kece tu kina na lotu Wesele.

    Laivi ira mada ga na dau ni politiki me ra politiki tiko, dou lako mada ga dou lai vunautaki Jisu vakavinaka na qase ni lotu. Solia vei Sisa na ka sa nei Sisa, solia vua na Kalou na ka e nona na Kalou.

    E dua na taro me ra taroga tiko na qase ni lotu ena gauna oqo sai koya na cava sara mada e sa levu mai kina nai soqosoqo vou ni lotu. Na kenai sau sa matata sara tu ga vakavinaka.

    E vakavuna sara ga na basika mai ni veimataqali lotu e Viti sai koya na nodra sa tekivu lakova na politiki na qase ni lotu Wesele tekivu sara tu ga mai na vuaviri ni 1987.

    Ratou sara ga qori o Manasa Lasaro kei Tomasi Raikivi ratou vakavuna saraga vakalevu na kena sa mai waicala tu kina na lotu Wesele ena bula vaka politiki.

    Sa qai yaco gona mai qo na gauna me ra dui biu donu tale mada kina vakadodonu na veisoqosoqo maroroi, lomani, rokovi me vaka na lotu Wesele.

    Dou laivi Qarase mada na qase ni lotu Wesele me samuti koya mada na kenai samu ni dawa ena lawaki ea cakava me tekivu mai ena gauna ni nona interim PM yacova ni mai tauyavutaka dua nona i soqosoqo vakapolitiki na SDL.

    Dau kaya ga o ratou na qase – “Lauti koya na kena i samu ni dawa”.

  11. WHAT DRIVES YOUR LIFE?

    Everyones life is drieven by something. Right now you may be driven by a problem, presure, or a deadline. You may be driven by a painful memory, a haunting fear, or an unconcious belief. There are hundres of consequences that can drive your life. But There are only 5 COMMONs ones.

    To be continued.

  12. MANY PEOPLE ARE DRIVEN BY GUILT (1)

    They spend their entire lives running from regrets and hidding their shame. Guilt Driven people are manupulated by memories. They ollow their past to control their future. They often unconciously punish themselves by sabotaging their own success. Many wonders through life without a purpose.
    We are products of our past, but we don’t have to be prisoners of it. The bible says : “what happiness for those whose guilt has been forgiven. What relief for those who have confessed their sins and God has cleared their record.

  13. Wailaitavu or waiwai dina, stop hallucinating and get to the reality man!! methodist church is now supporting this Govt!!

  14. So the Methodist church has withdrawn its commitment to the conference in Rewa, what of the threats that you dishonourable citizens of this country listed in Solivakasama and RFN harping about??? Ro Epeli smiles now, Kepa sulks now, and you people??? back to your holes, rats of the sewar!!

  15. I agree, lets get on with ruining the country.

  16. By the way, did Franko have to sign away his left ball for this temporary relief?

  17. gdevreal,

    Your brain is too small to see beyond the tip of your nose.

    Is Fiji in ruins? Has any country stopped trading with Fiji?

    It’s a good omen the EU stopped the so-called AID for our sugar industry because these are not AID, they are loans.

    Prudent financial management should ensure that Fiji does not rely too much on these so-called foreign AID. In fact, we do not need AID. We have our banking system that should provide the finances for farmers to develop the land.

    Fiji’s land resources is so fertile it’s a wonder we are importing vegetables and fruits from New Zealand and Australia.

    The truth of the matter as I see it is for landowners particularly Fijians to use their land resources and farm on mass scale. Supply all our resorts with vegetables and fruits they require for their restaurants and to fee the tourists.

    Let’s make our country not only rely on tourism as the biggest revenue earner but make agriculture the biggest. Although sugar is second, let’s go all out and make ourselves self-sufficient in agricultural produce.

    If one looks at world history, all great countries of the world became great due to their agriculture industry.

  18. The Methodist church is thinking of the consequences the country will be if fire meet fire. God will never loose but allow certain circumstances to happen. God has his plan and who knows most will be laughing and some will be crying in pain. Now Next Commonwealth decision. Sa sega mai na cakacaka ra suka na koro na tamata.

    Ni sogoti na loma ni tamata ena yaco ga kina na ka caka tu mai Iraki, AFganistan , Indonesia, Thailand kei na vei vanua tale eso. Na ka e sega ni vinakati me yaco i viti. E da tamata walega eda na vosota ga vaka lailai. Da sega ni kalou meda voota vaka dede. Dua na siga e na vuki na matani tu me na vanua vaka Iraki kei Papiloni baleta na butuki ni lewe ni vanau ena nodra galala. Na Lotu Wesele e levu na vei qaravie cakav, Koro ni VULI, Vala ni bula, Vanua ni nodra susugi na gone sega na tamadra. Na matani tu e sega ni solia e dua na sede me ra bula kina o ira qo. Ni sa sega na solevu me qai kaumai vei na sede me saumi kina na kedra mai Dilkusha girls. BMS, Lelean. ra saumi na dau kau lotu? We a commiting a sin if we support what is wrong and we think that is right. Paul to the Corinthians.

  19. walaitavu,

    Qai lai tarogi ratou na qase ni lotu Wesele na taro o taroga tiko ya.

    Sai ka vicasagavulu ni koniferedi e caka tiko qo?

    Na lotu Wesele e levu duadua nona asset vei ira kece na lotu era tu oqo e Viti. Na leqa levu ni lotu ni sega ni vakayacori vinaka na kena manidia taki nai lavo kei na asset. Oya e sega ni leqa ni matanitu, ya na leqa ni lotu.

    Nai volatabu madaga e tukuna va qo – solia vei Sisa na ka sa nei Sisa, vua na kalou na ka e nona.

    Ke sa nona i tavi na lotu me kauta madaga nai tukutuku vinaka kei Jisu, o ya ga na ka me cakava. E sega ni mai nonai tavi na politiki.

    Sa rui raba lailai nomu vakasama kei na nomu re-interpret taka nai vola tabu.

    This government is the government of Fiji for now on Earth. The church’s government is in heaven so while the church members are still here in Fiji, follow what the government says.

    I have the belief that the only reason the church now supports government is because the Suva City Councl is threatening to sell off all properties that have been defaulting on their city rates. As far as I know, the SDL government once bail them out on their city rates.

    Otioti ni noqu vakamacala vei iko Walaitavu, kauta nomu vakasama i valenivo me lai flush taki mada. E sega ni yaga.

  20. Vinaka Vitivou

    Waraka nomu gauana ni na vakadaberi vakadua na matanitu. Ni ko sogota na bula galala ni lewe ni vanau ona sotava na kena i sau. Waraka na kena vakacabote taki na wavu makawa ni davo talega na wavu vou semati tailevu kei naitasiri. Sega ni koya oya. Na i tuvatuva sa tiko dou na sega ni toboka rawa. Nomudou CID boci e tiko nei neimami loma ni CID. Wavu kece ena davo wili kina na rara ni waqavuka. Nai nuinui kece kei viti ena davo. Ke sa rawa ni caka mai vei vanua tani cava ena sega ni rawa kina i viti. Na ka o dou cakava o dou sussugi ira kina na lewe ni vanau mera na voroka na lawa kara tamata ca ni seg ani rogoci nodra dodonu. Dou yadra dou tiko vaka tawa. Kua ni tukuna na lomalagi baleta ya ona seg ani yaco kin. Me savasava mada i vuravura qai o yaco i loma lagi. Nomu vaka nananu kei ira o tokona e boi vaka na kora vavaku nei KHAUM Kei ira na tabu druta.

    Na mobile e sa ka vinaka dina . O wele tiko ga o sa kuvu ni soso. Waraka! Masu vakalevu

  21. Vinaka Vitivou

    Waraka nomu gauana ni na vakadaberi vakadua na matanitu. Ni ko sogota na bula galala ni lewe ni vanau ona sotava na kena i sau. Waraka na kena vakacabote taki na wavu makawa ni davo talega na wavu vou semati tailevu kei naitasiri. Sega ni koya oya. Na i tuvatuva sa tiko dou na sega ni toboka rawa. Nomudou CID boci e tiko nei neimami loma ni CID. Wavu kece ena davo wili kina na rara ni waqavuka. Nai nuinui kece kei viti ena davo. Ke sa rawa ni caka mai vei vanua tani cava ena sega ni rawa kina i viti. Na ka o dou cakava o dou susugi ira kina na lewe ni vanuz me ra na voroka na lawa kara tamata ca ni sega ni rogoci nodra dodonu. Dou yadra dou tiko vaka tawa. Kua ni tukuna na lomalagi baleta ya ona sega ni yaco kia. Me savasava mada i vuravura qai o yaco i loma lagi. Nomu vaka nananu kei ira o tokona e boi vaka na kora vavaku nei KHAUM Kei ira na tabu druta.

    Na mobile e sa ka vinaka dina . O wele tiko ga o sa kuvu ni soso. Waraka! Masu vakalevu

  22. Delete! Delete!

    Don’t worry I won’t be back and the pleasure is all mine!

  23. Raw Fiji news the most credible blog site yeah right!

    Those lowlife mongrels at Raw that participate in the dissemination of propagandistic materials are no better than cowards that cower in the darkest cavern only to appear and spew their venom.

    They roam various sites prostituting themselves all the while these nameless and gutless wonders are lost for they are society’s rejects.

  24. walaitavu,

    First up I’m not in the military, never been one, never gonna be one. Ever. But I understand fully well why Fiji had to go through this situation for now.

    I’m just a civilian and what that means is that we can easily blend into your group and infiltrate it. Just like its been done yesterday, today and tomorrow.

    The question is what are you and your group going to achieve by all the destruction you mentioned above?

    What are you going to achieve for Fiji and its people? Are you going to save somebody or something from something else?

    Remember, everyone knows that Fiji can easily go down that path you and your group are now hatching. After all, we Fijians have our own system of government that define where we come from and whom we can lay our allegiance to.

    People of this beloved country have weighed the consequences of those kinds of revolutionary actions and have come out the wiser. It’s only those few in the hierarchy of leadership in the Methodist church, in the political arena, in a few civilian societies who thinks they know better than everyone else.

    We’ve had four coups already and people of all races have seen how destructive it was. Even we Fijians have seen how destructive it was to our own kind. The evidence that it hasn’t help anybody let alone indigenous Fijians are so many. Only a few had been benefiting from it all.

    If the first coup of 1987 was right by God, why are we still going through turmoil all these years? Rabuka’s 1997 constitution was rejected by 8 provinces in Fiji and even civil societies rejected some parts of it. What does that say?

    It is common knowledge that Rabuka created a mess by politicizing the GCC and the Methodist church. Today, I’m ashamed of what has happened to these pillars of our beloved country.

    Lastly, I work in the Information and Communication Technology industry in Fiji. To track all communications in and out of Fiji is easy. Some are even recorded.

    To make your mobile telephones irrelevant when your group start your destruction is simple. Just shut down all the networks. There you go.

    Do you know whose communication channel will be allowed to work? You can make a wild guess.

    I would have revealed more to you but out of respect for the industry I work for, I must let it rest there so that at least for now, the freedom to communicate is available to all citizens.

    Na vakacaca cava o tukuna tiko qori? Ke da sa na vakacaca kece qo, o cei na qai vo?

  25. we know who you thank you for revealing yourself. After the dust has settled we will round up all including you. Give back our freedom and you will be pardon.

    People like you I don’t know what you teaching your children with. Didi tell them that COUP is Good? Huh!

    Our network is so that you wont even know what hit you. Waraka namaka. Enough is enough. So you have been the one reading all the emails and hacking them eh? We know you very well. Telecommunication lila boi dada qori.

    Waraka your days are numbered togethr with Kaihum. Drau cili drau qai druta..

    Like that you will know. You don’t even know people blogging in front of your eyes there. E midilai sara.

    Me caka gona dua na ka me mosi kece vei keda na lewe ni vanua baleta me kila o vuaravura ni da sega ni tokona na vei ka e yaco tiko. Sake eso na cakacaka, Toro cake nodra i tutu eso. Ra kila ga na uro ni ka e caka tiko o ira na vei liutaki. Nomu technology e macawa sara.

    Sa na caka na vakacaca me qai vo ga o iko kei ira nomudou i to. Mo dou qai kau i Sukuna park luva nomudou i sulu dou qai vaka rarawa taki. Na ka caka vei ratou na CRW, kei koya na Lecture kai idia e lailai. Ko na CRW ko tunaka qori o VB nona soresore o kemudou dou na tunaki yadudua me yacova sara ni sa soro mo qai kacivi tamamu tukamu mai na io bulubulu me mai soli cegu vei iko.

    Na vei ka e baleti ira noqu turaga au na valataka me yacova nai otioti ni cegu e solia vei au na noqu kalou. Dou yavu tamata vei beci, dou buturaki ira na vei turaga bale marama bale. Sega nomudou i tovo dou sa kalou vata kei ira na tabu druta o dou tiko vata.

  26. @walaitavu,

    Au sa rui lomani iko vakalevu. Na ca ga mai na ulumu. Kevaka e dua e vei beci, nai matai saraga ni vuaviri e veibeci.

    Sa evei nai volatabu o tukuna tiko? Oti ga o quote tiko mai nai volatabu. Nai volatabu vata ga qori da wilika kece tiko qo e veisiga.

    Ia qo o sa gusugusu veituna sara. Me caka gona tagane.

    Au kerea keo sa lotu, mo lotu dina sara. Kua nio masu tiko ga vei Jisu qai nanuma me yaco tiko ga na lomamu. Me yaco na loma ni kalou sega ni lomamu.

  27. vitivou why are you deleting posts? Are you afraid of the truth.

    Your threats to the people of Fiji shows what bullies you are so please don’t call Aust & NZ as bullies.

    Can’t you understand that whatever you do is illegal and remember Hitler and the Germans will say never again.

  28. Tamata ni Vanua

    Vitivou kei Walai tavu drau solia ga eke na yacamu drau kei na nomudrau address drau qai lai veitalanoa vinaka kina.Tovo ni tamata rere drau mai cakava tiko ni sega tiko ni kilai na yacamudrau.Kua mada na vuni tiko eke drau yavu tamata vodoka na basi ni Taveuni.Sega ni kena vanua qo.Drau veicara

  29. @Prem,

    WTF? I’m not even the owner of this blog and why should I delete any post? You must be drunk and hallucinating.

  30. The Methodist Church decision to cancel the Conference which I believe was done in a democratic process by its standing commitee.Thats exactly what we are trying to show the world that we should be governed by a democratic government .I believe in the view of the Methodist democratic decision to cancel the Conference we should all be proud and thankful to them that in the wake of all these confrontation the Methodist church still listen to the voice of its members (Standing Committee) and not dictating like Voreqe by the barrel of the gun.This decision from the Methodist church to cancel the conference does no go down well with me but after giving it much thought I tend to realize that these people are man of God and God do things in mysterious ways. We must always remember that Gods winning process is like putting a puzzle together , at the moment things look like that we are loosing the battle but its Gods way of conquering the war.
    Again all these decisions and actions were the outcome of the Methodist Church month long fasting and praying and anything that’s taking place now are the fruit of that. If their decision to cancel the conference were based from their own personal agenda or Voreqe’s influences than nobody else will suffer it’s the Methodist Church alone and they will regret that decision for the rest of their life. Before I pen off we should be thankful to the Commonwealth ministerial meeting decision by giving Voreqe’s till September the 1st to try and take the country back to a democracy led government.
    It’s better to take a little step forward rather than leaping forward and regret later.
    Thanks

  31. united we stand divided we fall…….god bless fiji and its people…..prem ra veivoski tiko na lewe ni vanua, o vosa tiko o iko boci ….qaruna de wele o vitivou kei walaitavu o lau vutu o iko …

  32. What is the matter with you people? Remember Frank wants everyone to be equal in Fiji, I don’t because everything was fine as an Indo Fijian I just want my freedom back so I can get on with my life without all the all the hassel.

    butadroka and viti its people like you that play the racists game and spoil it for everyone.

  33. prem, we are not spoiling the party… all im saying , if george speight was there ….. it will be complicated then this……. do you understand….. frank is trying to bring us together as one……as…….one ….. brother…. wake up tamana….now if you want…..we will bring back george…….

  34. If George could take us to fair elections please bring him back, I don’t care one man one vote as long as we do the right thing so everything that is done for Fiji is legal and we can get on with our lives.

    Most of the Indo Fijians have left the country and others would leave if they could. I want a Fiji like before where if we worked hard we could do well for ourselves. Some of us are not interested in becoming PM or President of Fiji. We are business people and like I said before because I was able to manage our money well and gave my children a good we are living a comfortable life.

  35. prem, tamana…. frank will prevail…..it wont happen over night, but it will happen… belive in me…. your children will be happy for what his done…..once again…. together as one…. one love..brother….prem give him a chance…..

  36. Bula naita Butadroka

    Sa da vaka rorogo tu madaga na lewa cava ena tau. Ke levu noda vosa vaka se vaka e da cagi wale tu bekaga.

    Kere vei vosoti raraba vei VITIVOU kei ira na vei wekani. Ke sega beka ni rogo vinaka nai tautau ni vosa e gole tiko yani meu vosoti ena delani ni vaka rokoroko.

    Dou moce nda vata na loloma ni noda turaga.

  37. Wailaitavu, kerea mo gade mada i St Jiles!! face reality man you’re a lost cause..

  38. I cannot see the logic behind the people supporting Voreqe when we know very well that normally people who commit treason by law will be dealt with accordingly.
    But on the other hand I believe that God gave each one of us the freedom to do things wether its right or wrong.
    I have been thinking deep down into my heart on why my Fiji have to suffer so much from all these coups.
    In Gods plan everything that is happening around us means a lot and I now can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
    We the people who are suffering because of Voreqes coup can be rest assured that we are just on tip of the ice berg where all the dirty work of these highly profile people will be exposed which also include Voreqe and his Military top brass.Its been along time since independence that these rot been hidden deep down in our society but as we are now in Gods timing zone all these dirty dealings are starting to surface.
    Although Voreqe and the military thinks that they are the heroes of all thats taking place in Fiji but the real fact is that they are being used as a scape goat for all that is in the pipe line for Gods plan to work.Gods usually pick the timming and the people to carry out his work and it suits Voreqe and his present co-military colleges due to thier cunning and greedy way of living.
    They will be punished for the mess that they have created to the country but at last the God that the Methodist worship will be exalted and always be praised.
    Thanks

  39. @moce tadra,

    You don’t understand the logic behind why a lot of people are supporting Frank simply because you do not know what happened in Fiji in the last 20 years since the first coup.

    Frank and the military are not heroes but what they are doing is right. To find out why it is right, go and study history and what happened to Fiji.

  40. Hi vitivou,
    Why do I have to study history as I was born and brought up in Fiji.Iam well qualified for the job I do which is enough for me to get a decent job anywhere in the world and you dont have to study history to know whats right from wrong.
    I was in the civil service for 12years and that gives me some fair idea on how the goverment machinery operates which have nothing to do with my understanding of whats right from wrong like you do.
    You sounds so militant to me due the tone of your comments and I donot need that sir.
    Lack of education is bad for the country and if you know your history better than me than you should be able to predict the future through that knowledge.And as an educated person (if you got one) you should follow the right procedure in trying to put your point across rather than holding the gun and taking over the goverment forcefully.
    Unless you are born in the 1800 B.C than no one around the globe will know history much better than you.
    But anyway thanks for your nonsence comments.

  41. Moce Tadra.

    What exactly is your gripe, we know all that occurred pre and post 5/12/06 was wrong and an act of treason.

    Unfortunately there are times when a wrong must be seen as a right confusing uh, well allow me I will simply ask you this very simple question Are we our brothers keepers? If so then you would have your answer as to why the wrong was committed.

    There is no need to delve into details and all the reason why.

  42. Yes Ratu Sai really confussing,
    Thats my point the coup was wrong full stop.Never a time a wrong can be seen as a right its some logic behind Voreqes coup that can be seen as right but the way he force the issue can never be right .Only in the Fiji Military wrong can be seen as right because they are thinking from their wants and not from their needs like wise from their bottom and not from their top.

  43. VICTOY TO GOD

    IN a solemn pilgrimage across the Rewa River, senior Methodist ministers made a traditional approach to the chiefly host of their 2009 annual conference to announce its cancellation yesterday
    “It was a difficult task for the church to convey this message to the vanua of Rewa and it was also difficult for the Marama Roko Tui Dreketi (Ro Teimumu Kepa) to accept,” church assistant general secretary Reverend Tevita Banivanua told the Fiji Times.

    “But we’re strengthened by God’s word when He said: ‘For when I am weak, then I am strong’ (2 Corinthians 12:10).”

    He said there were two ways to deal with the State’s decision not to allow the conference – to be confrontational, which the church did not want to be seen as, or be humble.

    The challenge is huge. When it is God’s will, he will surely open many other doors in the future.”
    Mr Banivanua said the cancellation of the conference was not a loss for the church. Its humble approach, he said, meant victory because “God will triumph at the end of the day

    He said there were two ways to deal with the State’s decision not to allow the conference – to be confrontational, which the church did not want to be seen as, or be humble.

    “That is God’s will,” he said.

  44. God will triumph in the end when the church do what it is supposed to do and that is to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ and not the political gospel of the SDL or Laisenia Qarase. It’s that simple.

  45. Vitivou

    Just tell mada what is the Political Gospel the Methodist Church is preaching?

    Tell us all so we know what is it?

    They can allow the FM96 party to go on but can not allow the Methodist Church SOlevu To go on. They allow evil things rather than allowing what Millions of Poeple in Fiji Rely to live on and being fed the mouth of ophan, the unde privillage and all.

    TEll us what is the POLITACAL GOSPEL THE CHURCH IS DOING. Its so Vague.

  46. @Vakaroro,

    Why don’t you do your homework? You’ll find what I’m talking about littered along the pathway back to 1987. That is, the meddling of the church in the political affairs of the country by giving credence to a racist political ideology founded on a lie.

    Where is the Christian message of LOVE one another when some talatalas abused the sacrosanctness of their position to openly support racist ideologies propagated by people with evil agendas?

    If you cannot comprehend what I’m talking about, you have no business to question anything since you do not know reality.

  47. vitivou
    Sa rui levu vei iko na siosio.Cant you understand the simple comments about being humble or being confrontational as mentioned by Vakaroro.
    Your comments to people in this blog site is so negative that even your hero Voreqe will want to use your idea for his bottom wiper .
    All we are trying to point out here is that no one in Fiji deserve to be penalised including the Methodist stand of being humble.If there was no coup we wont be talking about this issue and again just because of a few evil minded people like Voreqe and his military colleges this issue came up.
    I believe that nobody will be a loser by the wise decision by the Methodist to be humbled rather than taking the IG head on.
    Ke tawa tiko na ulumuni o na sega ni vosa tiko vakalialia kau vakabauta ni na marautaka talega o Voreqe na vakatulewa ni Lotu.De lakolako ra wele na vulagi da veiqaraki nai taukei.
    vinaka

  48. @moce tadra,

    The tone of my comments reflects my frustration for people who have very short memories as to what was happening in Fiji in the last 20 years.

    Maybe you need a rebooting of your mindset. Without some of the talatalas meddling itself into politics, we wouldn’t have had the government stopping the conference from going ahead.

  49. Correction to my comment above……

    Without some of the talatalas meddling itself into politics, we would have had the government allowing the conference going ahead.

  50. Methodists in Fiji were once very decent people. The church can be proud of its achievements before 1987. After 1987 the Methodist church became too political and so blind that some elements carried out a coup by overthrowing its own president. They illtreated other communities instead of looking after its own youths, high number are in prison and schools where exam results are much lower then other schools. One can only conclude some members like Lasaro are devils work as our christain god will never allow us to harm our fellow humans

  51. vitivou

    See your mouth is going faster than your brain, you have to repeat and correct yourself.

    Yes like the Methodist we have all learnt how destructive Rabuka’s COUP was to the nation unlike you, the Catholic Church, Frank and all those that support him and his military regime you haven’t learnt anything.

    That is the reason why decent, honest people will not support Frank because HE COUPED TO GET WHERE HE IS TODAY! ONCE AGAIN IT IS RIGHT OVER WRONG – WE HAVE CHOSEN THE RIGHT.

  52. Bula Oscar,
    Methodist church are not responsible for people in prison.Its the parents who should be resposible for teaching their kids to behave well.Try to see beyond your nose and see those street kids in Suva…do you still blame the methodist church for it?No my friend those are the resposible of the goverment to focus more on their social services rather than recruting more police officers and pumpimg money into our prison system New policy should be introduce so that parents should be responsible for their kids.I can rest assure you that we are breeding our own future criminals by allowing kids to roam around those computer shops late into the nite watching adult rated sites ,sniffing glue and etc just because there are no policy within the goverment which should state that any kids found alone after 10pm parents will be resposible for it.Oscar your accusations clearly shows that you donot understand some of the problem going around you and yet you are quick to point.Get your facts right mate or otherwise you will look silly in trying to talk on something that you do not have a single clue about it
    Vinaka

  53. Bula vinaka vitivou,
    No point in blaming the talatalas if you listen properly to your hero Voreqe for taking the Country forward.What you gonna get out of it.You will not solve a single thing by blaming someone else and thats why you are frustrated my friend.For the last 20 years you are talking about goes back to 1989 ,is that all you talking about history?Than I am better off than you in Fijis history.

  54. Ok guys, chill out for now. We all know that the methodists are heavily politicised, eg forcing its members to vote against the people’s charter. What is their business in this? It is a religous body for God’s sake. I am sure the majority of our methodist brothers and sisters are genuine devotees of the faith but the problem lies with the LASORESORES and the KANAIBOCIS.

  55. Bula joe,
    Sa vakaraitaka tu na noda lolovira nai taukei na nomuni vosavosa na wekaqu.
    Iam not here to defend the Methodist church and I will not comments on how the church has been politicised but to see some of us the Taukei on these blog saying such remarks to our fellow brothers is so sad.Just because of our diffrent views people like you have taken that far to totally allienate your self in saying disgusting remarks here for your fellow brothers mate.Some of us who are blogging here are closely related to the Bainimaramas,IG and most of those military councils and we do not agree with them but we make sure that our difrences are only political and we will keep it that way.
    Vei iko na wekaqu ke ko kai Viti sa dua na kai Viti sega na wekamu ni ko tauca tu na vosa qori kau vakabauata ni tu nomu gaunisala ni veiwekani vei ira ko rukaki iara tiko ia sa vakamataboko taki iko na duidui ni vakasama.
    Moce joe

  56. Moce Tadra,

    I stand by my remark that Methodist Church producers more prisoners and its school system producers large number of dropouts.. My point is if the Church sticks to it primary purpose of preparing parents of their responsibility instead of getting into politics, we may not have that many prisoners and school dropouts. Movies computer shops will always be around, self disipline will need to come from church via parents school etc.

  57. Vinaka Oscar
    Simple isnt it!If you cant sink it in thats your call mate.The school ,the prison etc all started from home.Just to bring your dream world into reality mate,why there are less Indian in prisons.Can you tell me why?.I will answer it for you their social background are firm (money to educate their kids) and their priorities are set right (education for their kids).They dont go to church but they are doing what all Fijian church
    goers should be doing hard work and more hard work.The prisons will be full and Fijians will fill the streets if we Fijians started blaming each other as you do.
    Oscar time has change quite rapidly and you cannot be relying on the church to solve all our social crisis.Those people in the church are not phystrist,child advocator,alcohol and drugs councillor,social worker,mental health worker and etc.Thats why Iam trying to say that all these services should be available because all the Talatal can do is to repair the inner spirit.
    Thanks

  58. You’ll get through this storm
    It is I; be not afraid. MARK 6:50
    Are you in a storm today? Then read these words: ‘The boat was in the middle of the sea; and He was alone on the land. Then He saw them straining at rowing, for the wind was against them. Now about the fourth watch of the night He came to them, walking on the sea, and would have passed them by. And when they saw Him walking on the sea, they supposed it was a ghost, and cried out…But immediately He talked with them and said to them…’It is I; do not be afraid.’ Then He went up into the boat to them, and the wind ceased’ (Mark 6:47-51 NKJV). There are four lessons here for us: 1) It’s when we feel most separated from God, that He’s teaching us the most. Dave Dravecky said, ‘Looking back…I have learned that the wilderness is part of the landscape of faith, and every bit as essential as the mountaintop. On the mountaintop we are overwhelmed by God’s presence. In the wilderness we are overwhelmed by His absence. Both places should bring us to our knees; the one, in utter awe; the other, in utter dependence.’ 2) God doesn’t show up early. Usually He comes in the worst part of the storm when you think you can’t take any more – but He will always be on time. 3) God takes us through different storms, revealing more of Himself to us in each one. Otherwise there are aspects of His character, and divine strategies we’d never understand. 4) God’s presence alone should be enough for us in any storm. The moment He shows up and says, ‘It is I,’ should calm all our every fearsour every fear should be calmed.

  59. Take my Son

    A wealthy man and his son loved to collect rare works of art. They had everything in their collection, from Picasso to Raphael. They would often sit together and admire the great works of art.

    When the Vietnam conflict broke out, the son went to war. He was very courageous and died in battle while rescuing another soldier. The father was notified and grieved deeply for his only son.
    About a month later, just before Christmas,
    There was a knock at the door. A young man stood at the door with a large package in his hands.

    He said, ‘Sir, you don’t know me, but I am the soldier for whom your son gave his life. He saved many lives that day, and he was carrying me to safety when a bullet struck him in the heart and he died instantly. He often talked about you, and your love for art.’ The young man held out this package. ‘I know this isn’t much. I’m not really a great artist, but I think your son would have wanted you to have this.’

    The father Opened the package. It was a portrait of his son, painted by the young man. He stared in awe at the way the soldier had captured the personality of his son in the painting. The father was so drawn to the eyes that his own eyes welled up with tears. He thanked the young man and offered to pay him for the picture. ‘Oh, no sir, I could never repay what your son did for me. It’s a gift.’

    The father hung the portrait over his mantle.. Every time visitors came to his home he took them to see the portrait of his son before he showed them any of the other great works he had collected..

    The man died a few months later. There was to be a great auction of his paintings. Many influential people gathered, excited over seeing the great paintings and having an opportunity to purchase one for their collection.

    On the platform sat the painting of the son. The auctioneer pounded his gavel. ‘We will start the bidding with this picture of the son. Who will bid for this picture?’
    There was silence.

    Then a voice in the back of the room shouted, ‘We want to see the famous paintings. Skip this one.’

    But the auctioneer persisted. ‘Will somebody bid for this painting? Who will start the bidding? $100, $200?’

    Another voice angrily. ‘We didn’t come to see this painting. We came to see the Van Gogh’s, the Rembrandts. Get on with the
    Real bids!’

    But still the auctioneer continued. ‘The son! The son! Who’ll take the son?’
    Finally, a voice came from the very back of the room. It was the longtime gardener of the man and his son. ‘I’ll give $10 for the painting..’ Being a poor man, it was all he could afford.
    ‘We have $10, who will bid $20?’
    ‘Give it to him for $10. Let’s see the masters.’

    The crowd was becoming angry. They didn’t want the picture of the son.
    They wanted the more worthy investments for their collections.

    The auctioneer pounded the gavel. ‘Going once, twice, SOLD for $10!’
    A man sitting on the second row shouted, ‘Now let’s get on with the collection!’
    The auctioneer laid down his gavel. ‘I’m sorry, the auction is over.’
    ‘What about the paintings?’

    ‘I am sorry. When I was called to conduct this auction, I was told of a secret stipulation in the will. I was not allowed to reveal that stipulation until this time. Only the painting of the son would be auctioned. Whoever bought that painting would inherit the entire estate, including the paintings.

    The man who took the son gets everything!’
    God gave His son 2,000 years ago to die on the cross. Much like the auctioneer, His message today is: ‘The son, the son, who’ll take the son?’
    Because, you see, whoever takes the Son gets everything.
    God Bless.

  60. aquila….dua na talanoa vinaka ya bro…….loved it.. god bless….if theres more…send em.. bro..

  61. Moce Tadra,

    You are in another world, my initial comment was about politics in the church after 1987. I have seen Methodist advertisement about whom to vote during last election. I have yet to see a advertisement by church telling church members to look after their family or get the kids to study. Fijians qwn most of the land but they can not progress becouse of Church and some Chiefs. But wait why not blame the Indians for Fijians poverty, thats the metality people like you have or as Lasaro says hate indians and you will be a good Methodist. Wake up, the Church and Chiefs have a role to play in Fijians lives and at moment it is nowhere to be seen.

  62. Bula Oscar,
    I rest my case,blame anyone you like and good luck to you my friend.

  63. kerekere sa kua mada na vosa vakalialia, dua na ka me da nanuma taucoko tiko e viti ni lotu wesele a vakadavora nai wai ni veikanikani e viti, ke a sega na kena gole mai na lotu i viti ke keda sa veikanikani tikoga oqo, dua tale ke a lotu ca nai soqosoqo lotu oqo, ke a sega ni vakacuruma tale mai e dua nai soqosoqo lotu ki Viti.

    me nomuni na Kalougata.

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